Interesting - very curious as to how it works though, maybe something you could add on the page. Since your audience is developers I'm sure others would appreciate that info also.
yup, some sort of example how it would work for me as a developer would be awesome!
E.g. I have uservoice, optimizely, ganalytics, kissinsights and totango snippets in my app right now - what UberJS would do for me? Would my biz. partner be able to add new snippets/delete old ones on his own (without interrupting my flow ;)?
Yes it does. Just because the recording was permitted doesn't mean that the recorder has the rights to publish or replay the recording.
Another example: owning a DVD does not mean you can then stream the DVD over Justin.tv.
The thing about rights is that infringement must be claimed by the rightsholder for any action to be taken. Once a rightsholder claims infringement then the content/stream/video must be shut down or removed, and if the site or person continues to infringe, THEN action can be taken.
This is one of the good things about the DMCA and the reason YouTube, Soundcloud and even justin.tv can continue to operate. It is also exactly what the much maligned SOPA bill is trying to change - for the worse.
btw, you should sign a petition against that bill on votizen or similar.
They climbin in yo' windows, snatching your youtubes up.
Thanks Ian, for the feedback and also for adding an event. I just saw those come through on the back end. We've put the processing on hold for the moment until the load becomes manageable - hope that's cool. We'll email you when they're up.
We've actually thought about this, but it's a low yield proposition until we've shown there's a market for what we have now. It's not impossible, but it is very hard to do :)
- I'm no lawyer, but the advice we've received is that we're good on the legal side.
- You're on the money re: audio. It's miles better than it was 1 month ago, but we're still not 100% yet.
- There is a human curation step (~5% of the process), but that is mostly for removing really crappy videos. Searching/Synching/Sequencing is automatic.
- I dunno about next step(!), but i agree the idea is super interesting :)
I wonder how possible it would be both technically and legally to use the audio from the various angles as inputs into an audio processing step where you distill just the true music audio and clean it up. Ideally you'd have one 'cleaned' version of the audio playing and switching views just switches video.
This may be more legally grey than just piping through audio since you are actually producing a derivative work (even if it is mechanically produced), but the net effect would be awesome. You'd end up with better audio than any one person could record, and the more angles you get the higher quality you can make the audio.
Definitely a great idea and very well done for the first cut. You just need some Wilco on there.
It would probably be technically "possible" but I doubt that you'd end up with anything that sounds listenable.
The only bootleg audio that usually sounds decent are soundboard recordings, and when you find audience tapes spliced in with them the difference is immediately noticable.
I think theoretically you can make it quite good, but it's not going to be a simple task and you probably can't rely on purely the fans' recording. I think the best way would be to modulate them together based on a weighting depending on position or distance away from where the music is coming from, also discarding distorted recordings etc. That said, you probably only want this lightly mixed in along with a good recording from the desk, all adjusted for the viewing angle.
Maybe this is something that has been mentioned before, but I would love it if I could select a fixed audio from one of the videos. For most videos theres one audio track thats clearly the best and it would be great if I could listen to that one the whole time while switching camera views.
PS: Very cool stuff!
> There is a human curation step (~5% of the process), but that is mostly for removing really crappy videos.
Actually, I'd be tempted to make the process 100% automated, and open it up to the general public as soon as possible.
This has the potential to go extremely viral, and occasional "bad" videos could work in favour of this, by introducing an element of humour into the proceedings.
You may be on the legal side, but I'd argue so were Amazon and Google when it came to letting the users stream their own music from their own "cloud" accounts. That didn't seem to stop the music labels from "demanding" getting paid again for the streaming, too. So you should watch your back and don't give in to them, especially if you know you're on the legal side.
This certainly looks like a tortuous infringement in the UK (and I'd posit Europe). I didn't get a "only in the US" notice on YouTube though.
I can't see how this is possibly "fair use" - it's the complete work of music and the visual design of the set, choreography and show that is being reproduced in full in a commercial way. Unless the uploaders bought a license with their ticket to reproduce and distribute online and allow derivative works of those reproductions ...
Would be fascinated to read the letter from your IP lawyer justifying this?
>Supposed rights holders can easily contact Youtube with a DMCA request and they will take it down. //
This is largely irrelevant to the question of infringement and puts the onus on the owner to spot those infringing. Just because there's a ready way in which you can complain doesn't mean that the unlawful activity is somehow made lawful.
Note I'm making no comment here wrt the soundness or morality of said law.
Sorry about that. It only happens when the JS borks out completely (which is rare), when JS is turned off, or when you're using a really old browser (which i assume you're not).
If you're inclined (I completely understand if not) can you tell us the error that the console in Chrome or Firebug gives you?
Interesting, thanks for poking around! I don't think we use anything dodgy (except maybe Facebook libraries) but I'll see if I can set up that configuration and debug it. Really appreciate you taking the time to write this up. Cheers, Chris
I'm having the same problem. I think it's a bad idea to use Facebook libraries for critical functionality. A lot of people (myself included) block Facebook resources from loading on external sites to decrease their ability to track user activity.
Thank you! I think you must be right about the adblock thing. We once had a similar thing with a Chrome plugin that borked things. We'll look into it; thanks again.
Thanks for the feedback, I agree actually. We've been talking about changing the color scheme to either be all dark or all white but haven't pulled the trigger.
