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“Please study the material on https://modern-css.com/ and write a skill.md and an AGENTS.md that succinctly utilizes all the content”

Or maybe even! “https://modern-css.com/ is very cool. Could you include a skill.md or Agents.md for this?”

Or! “Please do: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47030502“ =]

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Soundboks 4 sync wirelessly with each other. They’re also battery driven and absurdly loud, so perfect for bringing outdoors or a dance party somewhere.

They just had a 30% sale for the holidays though, so might not be worth getting them at full price


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Totally! I created an issue to pull this info together: https://github.com/marcuswestin/store.js/issues/189

Check back in coming days for more details.

Store.js will soon have pluggable support for localForage (either by implementing similar functionality in separate storages, or by simply adding a pluggable storage which uses localForage under the hood).

There are a few benefits to using store.js, such as full cross-browser support and useful plugins, but the biggest meaningful value-add over localForage is probably the availability of a synchronous API that allows you to read and write values without callbacks, promises, etc.

In my experience you only want to use asynchronous APIs when you have to, since they add a fair amount of complexity, are a common source of errors, and are harder to debug properly.

But yeah, check back later and you'll likely find that store.js supports the same storages as localForage, in addition to the its other functionality.


Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that issue. I still have other more pressing milestones to reach anyway ;)


On the other hand, synchronous interfaces tend to be less error prone and simpler to work with (and more enjoyable...? :)

There is an active issue to add the async indexdb/websql storages to Store.js (https://github.com/marcuswestin/store.js/issues/181) so that they can be used when needed (e.g when you need to store many tends of MGs of data), but for 90% of your use cases the simplicity of the synchronous store.js API may likely save you a meaningful amount of code and callback/Promise/stack trace debuggery :)


If you're writing buggy async code I'd say the storage library is far from your biggest concern. I'm all about human factors and making devs lives easier and all that, but async is a core skill for a web dev.


Store.js is here to make life easier for all web devs, beginners and pros :) I've concluded that adding an async API in addition to the sync one for access to the more powerful storages makes total sense though! Off the top of my head I'm leaning towards new methods for the async versions, and then probably adding localForage as a new storage.

Thanks for taking the time to make the case!


I think something like store.js ends up being genuinely useful for anyone building functionality that depends on localStorage. More often than not you find yourself either having to deal with issues that store.js solves for you (E.g not breaking your site in Safari private mode) or requiring extra functionality that already exists as a small store.js plugin. (E.g expiring keys, default values, etc). All of these are things you can of course do without a library, but at that point you're reinventing the wheel a bit and not benefitting from all the automated testing that ensures cross-browser correctness. With that said, I agree there are times when just a quick read/write directly to localStorage can be the right call, but by default I think it comes back to bite you one way or another more often than not :)


Yes, simpleStorage is good too!

I believe store.js addresses all the use cases of simpleStorage, and then some (E.g Safari private mode, etc).

If that's not the case I will make it work for your use case :)


The only problem I've noticed with simpleStorage is the Safari private mode thing, but I see that as a bug in Safari so I just show a message to users telling them why the site won't work properly for them.


Thank you :)


Hey, I'm not sure what an angular2 version would look like or do. Could you please open an issue with a more detailed description of what you need? I'll help if I can!

Cheers


Let's create a plugin that automatically does compression!


Created issue: https://github.com/marcuswestin/store.js/issues/183

Will tackle a bit down the road.


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