The more specific the better

Are you kidding right now? Have you seen what's happening with ICE in the US? EU countries are just one effective social media campaign cycle away from the same policies. "It can't happen here" is foolish thinking.

See also: CCP

Policies are the problem here, not tools.

Just because the government is not out to get you at this exact moment doesn't mean that a future government won't be. Surveillance capacity seems to be a one way ratchet.

What surveillance capacity? In what way does the spec build surveillance capacity?

Mandatory app installation through the mandatory state sanctioned rootkit Google Play store and 4G/5G LTE modems on-chip management engines. And that doesn't even cover the ubiquitous app data partnerships which report your information upstream.

97% of population is ok with this

Not having a choice is not the same as consent

But you do have a choice. No one is takin away your physical IDs. But vast majority of population is begging for a safe digital ID solution.

Cash is still mostly accepted while majority of transactions are digital.

> vast majority of population is begging for a safe digital ID solution

Absolutely not. The population is fine with the status quo.

Huh? Maybe in Europe, yes where digital ID has been around for _decades_.

In US tho? You can get SSN of literally everyone and that's somehow enough to ID yourself.

Europe needs a private European identity provider. Until this happens, Europe will remain a technological vassal state of the US.

These are expensive products, you need depth of expertise and experience to create a system that could compete with the likes of gmail and Microsoft and ... so it's not a wonder that this hasn't happened yet. But pretending like this can be a public service is foolish (too high stakes ~~if~~ when it gets hacked), and pretending like existing providers that offer identity and email are sufficient is equally foolish. Google and ms and apple etc all offer the basics for free, and this is necessary for mass adoption. It will be an expensive project. But necessary, if the eu wants strategic autonomy.

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Oh and requiring a us based account is not even the most egregious part of this proposal, ffs

Not only that, be we also need a European payment system that's not tied to VISA / MasterCard, etc.

We're currently paying a small tax to the US for each card transaction we have.

Need a proper mobile os alternative

Oh my god, what are we doing

Touch this grass to prove you're not a robot

let's try to keep to credible sources here eh

Joke? Or someone really dont know it's his account?

/i

"can the bot army push average opinion x% in this innocuous topic?" it could very easily be a/b testing a propaganda system.

I'm not convinced that this whole discussion section isn't astroturf... some real out there opinions popping up in here