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> Apple Watch has been a game changer in some respects. I don't think anybody expected it to be as successful as it has been.

It has disappointed, actually, according to the very article we are commenting on: "The company sold about 10 million units in the first year, a quarter of what Apple forecast"



That was in the first year. Apple Watch has taken a while to get up to speed but is now doing really well.

You definitely can see it on more people's wrists than in the early days.


Okay, thank you, I didn't know that.


Apple Watch is the best-selling watch...

And the "Wearables, Home, and Accessories" revenue was 5.1 billion last quarter, which is bigger than iPad Revenue of 4.8 billion.

I actually think that Watch sales is a surprise on how well it is. Nobody expected it would be that good.


Apple watch is for people who already have an iPhone. It's not a game changer for a wider market it's a peripheral. a successful peripheral.


You're not wrong, but the context here is that iPhone sells over 200 million units a year. The chances of them having any other products which can even come close to matching that, is very very low.


The original iPod is a peripheral for people who already have Macs. Even later on, the iPod is a peripheral for people who already have either a Mac or a Windows PC.

My point is, peripherals can be successful and game-changing.


You're right, but I think the key here is that Mac and Windows support - essentially covering near 100% of the addressable market - made the iPod what it was.

The day watch becomes standalone and/or compatible with Android is the day it has a chance of becoming a true game changer. Until then I wouldn't even describe it as a peripheral, but just an accessory for an iPhone really.


The original iPod was a flop. cmdrtaco's infamous dismissal of it wasn't as wrong as people remember.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#/media/File:Ipod_sales_pe...


Yeah!


A decent portion of those sales are subsidized by health insurance.


Same thing with the iPhone, to be honest. It wouldn't be nearly as popular if people had to pay sticker price on the first day.




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