The DOGE engineers are government employees, right? We normally know names, etc of government employees, so they weren't doxxed.
This is different: the person in question isn't a government employee. It's also pretty clearly done to intimidate the judge, which is really not good.
You also left out that doxxing someone, anyone is bad. All you're doing here is saying that DOGE and Musk don't have any moral agency, they can't hold themselves to morality, all they can do is respond, tit for tat.
> This is different: the person in question isn't a government employee.
The judge's daughter is a government employee, a policy advisor for an executive department. There could be a worthwhile discussion about whether bringing further public attenion to a policy advisor is ethically on the same level as bringing further public attention to the identities of DOGE employees who raid the OMB and take unauthorized access of every American's SSN and other financial information (and then deliberately lie about whether the access is read-only). Personally, I think they're not on the same level.
> It's also pretty clearly done to intimidate the judge, which is really not good.
> Elon Musk Accused of Doxxing After Reposting Judge John McConnell’s Daughter’s Job on X
For re-posting a post that has a screenshot of a public linkedin profile?
I'm not a fan of trying to ruin lives over petty political disputes but this is hardly "doxxing." Does that word even mean anything anymore? Just the other week people were saying the "DOGE kids" were "doxxed" and it was the same thing. Posting a public linkedin profile.
Does the linked in profile mean "can't be doxed because you're otherwise online" or something?
That doesn't make sense to me. This person who is otherwise unknown and uninvolved in a court case is now subject to the typical internet rabble, that seems like some type of doxing.
The dictionary definition is: search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.
A linkedin profile is not private. Ironically, its very public. The entire point of a linkedin profile is to have your professional information public.
My definition of doxxing is more or less the dictionary definition. If you're going really far out of your way to find information on profiles that are otherwise private, with the goal of tearing someone down, that is doxxing. Maybe you could make a case that there is "just" doxxing, like finding the profile of an animal abuser... but in almost all cases, its just people being malicious.
I don't think publishing that a judge's daughter works at XYZ is doxxing. That has been a thing _long_ before the internet. The CEO's daughter is XYZ's wife. The politician's son is on the board of ABC co., etc.
Private "or identifying information" that seems to fit to me...
The idea that if any info about an individual is on the internet, they have a linked in profile or such, that they can't be doxed I don't think makes any sense.
> Private "or identifying information" that seems to fit to me...
I don't see how, honestly. That would make for an incredibly loose and meaningless definition. If I post "Donald J. Trump lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500", is that doxxing? Its identifying information.
We could get into semantics but at the end of the day, doxxing shouldn't be something treated lightly. If we start considering too many things as doxxing, nobody will take it seriously.
"or identifying information" - so it's doxxing by the very definition you quoted?
Why do people excuse this sort of behaviour? What explanation says it's ok for Musk to involve anyone's child in such a way? Never mind in a way that discredits the USAs claim to have checks and balances across 3 branches of government.
Don't forget the daughter's financial disclosure form, but the daughter's specific occupation as a "senior policy advisor" in the Department of Education might require her financial disclosures to be public [1].
> Public disclosure is required of "senior officials in the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government to ... [report] their finances as well as other interests outside the Government."
"Official" is kind of a big deal. Are policy advisors (as opposed to people who can both write policy and vote on passing it) considered officials?
It is dubious to use the term doxxing to describe this judge's daughter's situation, but Elon Musk has a hypocritical attitude toward the posting of public LinkedIn profiles (in the case of the DOGE "kids") and already-public information about a private jet.
